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Relics Page 10: B17 42-30156      

            

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 This section contains 100% genuine relics of the great aerial conflict Second World War including the Battle of Britain. We have added this section due to numerous enquires for this sort of personal history. All items will have been legally recovered and supported with authentification. Many parts listed in other sections of the site can be linked to the correct aircraft types. The following pieces listed on these pages are from aircraft crash sites and details of the, Squadron, Pilot ,exact date, combat details, aircraft type, and serial number. In most cases if not already supplied it will be possible for a small fee to receive copies of the Squadron Operational record book and official combat reports which are available from the record office at Kew. We have found that its allot more economical to employ the services of a professional researcher. Its costs around £50 to locate and take copies of original documents. Obviously these are crash relics and will not be in a usable condition, its the history that counts and it is possible for example to build up a collection of a Battle of Britain items from start of the battle until the end . Spitfire Spares does not support the recovery of wreckage from anything classified as a War grave or any recovery not fully compliant with the current legislation. Respect for the Brave aircrew is paramount and we will not offer or purchase any personal items recovered from aircrew killed in action serving their Country.  

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B17 42-30156  Hustling Sue 

   The following parts were purchased on one of our trips to Holland they sat in the store until recently rediscovered. It took allot of research and help from lots of experts on the B17 to identify as many of the parts as possible.

This aircraft crashed and parts were recovered in Vriescheloo which is located in Groningen (province) Netherlands.

It has an absolutely incredible story the pure courage of its crew and an eye opening incite into what those brave men went through.

Delivered Cheyenne 17/4/43; Smoky Hill 24/4/43; Presque Is 16/5/43; Assigned 423BS/306BG [RD-Z] Thurleigh 22/6/43; Missing in Action Hanover 26/7/43 with Wes Courson, Co-pilot: Roy Bronson, Navigator: Ted Grezlak, Bombardier: Henry Lynch, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: John Champion, Waist gunner: Cedric White,Tail gunner: Bill Lamb all taken as 7 Prisoners of War. Radio Operator: Bill Dayton, Ball turret gunner: Dock Thomas, Waist gunner: Bob Stevens{wia & drowned in River Ems. Three Killed in Action. Flak over Frisian took off vertical stabiliser, crashed Hofkamp Farm, Vriescheloo, Hol. Missing Air Crew Report 127.

On a mission to Hannover. Lt. Wesley Courson's plane from the 423rd of the 306 BG. A/C damaged by AAA fire inbound to target, made it to target, fell out of formation and was attacked by fighters near border on the way back.

I found information that Hustling Sue was shot down by Lieutenant Gerhard Dittmann of the 12./NJG 1 (flying a Bf 110 G-4 from Leeuwarden airfield) or by Major Anton Mader of the Stab/JG 11 (flying a Bf 109 G-6 from Jever airfield) at Vriescheloo, the Netherlands, however according to the Pilots testimony it would seems they were attacked by multiple FW 190s.


The Radio operator was killed by fighter fire on board, all other crew bailed out of burning aircraft.
2 crew members found dead from wounds, still in their parachutes, others captured that day and sent to Dulag Luft. See USAAF Missing Air Crew Report # 127.

This is from the Pilots own words and highlights just how brutal these missions could be along with the immense bravery of the crews.

2nd Lt. Wesley E. Courson

Above middle not Hustling Sue but is from 423 Squadron. Above right the official missing crew report 127. Click on the image to enlarge it.

After basic training, Courson trained as an aircraft mechanic at several bases. During that time, he applied for flight school and was accepted. Upon completion of basic, primary and advanced flight training, Courson was given his pilot’s wings and commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant.

He was sent to Hendricks Field at Sebring, Florida, where he trained to fly the B-17 bomber.

 Learning to fly the B-17 took him all across the country for several months. In May 1943, he was given a crew and orders to prepare for a transatlantic flight to England.  Upon landing in England, Courson and his crew were assigned to the 306th Bomb Group, 423rd Bombing Squadron.

Their first four flights into combat were fairly routine with only minor damage to their aircraft.

Their 5th mission began on the morning of July 26, 1943. 

Courson would recall later

“Our fifth mission proved to be the most and the worst. More flak and fighter planes than all previous runs together. Higher altitude mission at 27,500 ft. for it was a hot spot we were hitting that day.

The submarine depot and repair installations in Hanover, Germany.”

That mission for Courson and his B-17 crew proved to be their last of the war. As their B-17 neared the target, Courson and his co-pilot, Lt. Bronson, struggled to maintain control. In his diary, Courson described their dire situation,

 “The flak looked like black clouds….suddenly, there was a resounding explosion just beneath us.

The sound and the pressure hit our ears simultaneously and lifted the plane with a jar. Immediately, the four superchargers went wild, I had absolutely no control of manifold pressure,any attempt at changing the prop pitch setting with the thought of feathering engines one and four set up such vibration that it was beyond structural safety. Fighting to hold in formation, Bronson and myself were soaked in perspiration, the bomb run to the target was an eternity.

 When the bombardier, Lt. Lynch, let the 6,000 lb. load go, we shot up 200 ft.”

Still trying to maintain their place in the formation, both pilots were fighting the controls to maintain altitude. About that time, the formation turned left and lowered their altitude for the return trip to England.

That manoeuvre brought more trouble for Courson’s plane. “We tried to come on down with them but our flaps began to rip off and lose their effect.”

 Losing their ability to stay within the formation made them a target of the German fighter planes.

“They had spotted us as a cripple and were moving in for the kill. Most of the fighters were FW-190s, they were coming in fast and hitting hard, the tail-gunner called in all shook-up, the best I could understand was that the barrels of his guns had been shot off, It happened faster and faster, I saw the top of the left wing open up with at least four gaping holes

The right waist gunner called and said the 1st radio engineer was on the radio-room floor, his whole head is blown off.” About that time the right waist gunner was hit. Courson called for the tail gunner to take over the waist gun.

“ I couldn’t spare the co-pilot because he had his feet against the control column to hold it forward,Without that, I couldn’t hold against the forces. I also wanted the other officers and men to stay at their guns and keep them hot.”

The gunners were calling out hits and claiming some kills. Courson couldn’t verify any kills because of the confusion. Courson was suddenly jarred by an explosion.

 “I heard the high-pitched bang of a 20mm round at the same time the hot concussion hit the back of my head. I looked back to see the 1st engineer fall out of the top turret,I had to also look at his handsome face that was now spurting blood from his eyes and cheeks, but he got off the floor saying something about the plexiglass dome blowing up in his face, I yelled to him to get his parachute adjusted and stay where I could yell to him.

 The 1st engineer asked Courson about his parachute which was located on the top step of the catwalk. He retrieved it and helped Courson strap it on. Courson noted, “That action on his part may well be the reason that I was later able to get out of the aircraft.”

The fighters were still pressing home their attack.

 “They were coming in lined-up three to five in a row and their leading edges looked like a fireworks display, the number three engine showed fire, we tried to blow CO2 but nothing came out, number two engine was mostly oil and smoke, the acrid stench of burning was everywhere. I looked back to see what was causing it and I still don’t know what could have set the entire floor of the radio room on fire.  The tops of both wings had been chewed up by 20mm fire, the trailing edge of the left wing was ragged and a large piece flapped a couple of times then blew away, so this was the way it was, no way to move' no way to go but down.”

With the intercom gone, Courson yelled to the Engineer, “Champ, it’s time to go. I’ll be giving the three bell rings continuously but yell to everyone to bail out, we can’t let go of the controls so tell them to throw anyone on the floor out and hold onto their ripcords. That was the last thing I knew about that went on in the back."

 Courson instructed the Bombardier to destroy the Norden bombsight. He recalled, “I could hear the .45 caliber as Lynch shot up the bombsight and what sounded like everything else in the nose, If the Germans hadn’t shot us down by then he would have done it for them.”

It was now time for Courson and Bronson to bail out.

The Co-pilot went first. Fearing that the plane would fall off to the left and go into a spin once he let go of the controls, Courson decided to open the bomb-bay doors.

 “That was the biggest hole I could think of to go through. I didn’t know the door controls and locks had been shot away and that they would be slamming open and shut in the wind and they were very heavy doors.”

 He decided to risk it anyway and jump when the doors offered an opening.

 As he jumped, the plane did a sharp roll that caused him to be struck as he went through the doors. Courson recalled,

 “They knocked the living hell out of me. I knew I was hurt and I knew I was falling.

There was lots of wind flurry and whistling sounds and body numbness that had pain mixed with it.

 I fell forever. When the parachute caught the wind in a jolting wallop it knocked me out cold. At some point I became aware that I was being escorted down by two circling FW-190s.

 I could see the earth looming larger…it met me hard and didn’t give an inch.

 I am lucky to have come through that beating with only a dislocated right knee, torn lateral ligaments in that area, and possibly a hairline crack in the pelvic region.” As Courson lay there in confusion, still in lots of pain, he noticed a man standing nearby.

Courson remembered the man saying “Netherlands,” which gave him some hope. That hope was short-lived when five German Border Guards arrived.

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£45

             

B17 Hustling Sue Turret  part (nos 1 pg 10 Relics )

This peace is from the Mid upper turret of B17 Hustling Sue its part of the flexible belt that one of the 50 cal the Guns poked through. You can see it on the drawings far right under marked collar connection plate.

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B17 Hustling Sue Turret  Turret Hydraulic unit plate (nos 2 pg 10 Relics )

This plate was part of the Hydraulic unit that powered one of Hustling Sues Gun turrets seen in the drawing under far right.

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£39

             

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B17 Hustling Sue K3/4 Gunsight (nos 3 pg 10 Relics )

These peaces came from one of the K3/4 Gunsights used in Hustling Sue its incredible to think this was actually used in Combat shooting at FW 190s and other German fighters in this aircrafts epic but ultimately unsuccessful fight to survive.

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Shown above the target dimension feet adjustment for setting the wingspan of the aircraft onto the Gunsight.

 

You can see the paece above on the drawing of the K3 Gunsight

£95

         

 

B17 Hustling Sue Panel light switch (nos 4 pg 10 Relics )

This is a toggle switch used in Hustling Sue its the main instrument panel light switch mounted to the right of the repeater compass. Every B17 cockpit I have looked at appears different but this switch can been seen clearly in the Memphis Belle cockpit to the right of the repeating compass.

£155

         

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B17 Hustling Sue station 2 airframe part  (nos 5 pg 10 Relics )

This is a peace from station 2 pof the B17 Hustling Sue approximately 70 cm/ 28 inches wide. You can see its location by expanding the drawing shown under by clicking on the drawing.

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£75

         

 

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Shown under how it fits to the belt

B17 Hustling Sue Type B-14 Pilot seatbelt buckle (nos 6 pg 10 Relics )

This is a buckle from either the Pilot or Co Pilots seat belt its incredible the history that this peace has actually used by the Pilots of Hustling Sue.

The only picture I could find is of a model B17 cockpit showing this buckle attaching the belt to the seat.

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£125

         

Chute 1

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£275 for the pair

         

B17 Hustling Sue Mid upper Turret ammo chutes (nos 7 pg 10 Relics )

Here we have a pair of ammo chutes from Hustling Sues Mid upper turret , if you click on the drawing under you can see their position nos 13 and nos 18 in the drawing. I feel these could be restorable and used again in a turret project if they were straightened out

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Chute 1

 

Chute 2

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£75

         

B17 Hustling Sue Carb linkage ? (nos 8 pg 10 Relics )

Here we have an interesting part it has a couple of part numbers on it 210187 and T-256 I cannot be sure but part number 2101 comes back as Lever assy carb air which seems feasible. If you have a positive ID on this part please let me know on this link

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  Lots more parts of this aircraft being listed soon please watch this space.
 

 

 

 

         
 

                                                                                                                       


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